• [00:01:03] Introduction and context
• [00:01:21] What is Corona Print?
• [00:01:46] The history of Corona Print
• [00:02:14] Technological aspects
• [00:02:38] Environmental impact
• [00:03:32] Corona Print catalogue
• [00:04:15] A closer look at Corona Print
• [00:04:46] Family handover
• [00:05:08] Market and competition
• [00:05:48] A message to young people
• [00:05:57] Corona Print is hiring
• [00:06:36] Corona Print before PHCom
• [00:07:18] Corona Print with PHCom
• [00:07:58] Sales experiences
• [00:08:40] Corona Print’s expectations
• [00:09:16] Why PHCom?
• [00:10:17] Who handled sales before?
• [00:10:53] Corona Print’s customers
• [00:11:51] Episode wrap-up

Stéphane Depaepe: [00:00:12] Hello and welcome to this new episode of the Performance and Harmony podcast produced by PHCom in the transforma studio in Brussels, with the technical assistance of The Podcast Factory Org.

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Camille de Meeûs: [00:01:03] Hello Nicolas and Quentin, I am delighted to receive you today as part of our future collaboration with PHCom. How are you?

Quentin Moreau: [00:01:10] Hello Camille, I'm very well.

Camille de Meeûs: [00:01:11] Do you feel good here? Are you comfortable?

Quentin Moreau: [00:01:14] Ah, it's great, nice place!

Camille de Meeûs: [00:01:16] Is this an exercise you have already done? Talking like that, behind a microphone?

Nicolas Moreau: [00:01:19] Sometimes, but not that often.

Camille de Meeûs: [00:01:21] Ok, we'll do the exercise together today. So tell me, why are you here today, and above all, what is Corona Print?

Quentin Moreau: [00:01:28] We are here to talk about us, it seems. Corona Print is a company that makes plastic cards, and prints printed plastic cards. We make the plastic card, we print it for the customer if necessary, but we also sell printers that allow the card to be printed so that the customer can do it themselves.

Camille de Meeûs: [00:01:46] Tell me a little about the history of this company.

Nicolas Moreau: [00:01:49] Corona Print started in 82. It was our dad who started it by printing with the techniques of the time, on paper first, and they quickly turned to plastic cards because the plastic card market was booming. And very quickly technologies were added to the printing, which now makes us more of a technology company rather than a simple printing company to put colors on the PVC.

Camille de Meeûs: [00:02:14] You were talking to me about technology, what do you mean by that?

Nicolas Moreau: [00:02:16] In addition to the printing that we see with the naked eye on the card, on the PVC, white at the start, comes the printing and inside the card, there is a chip. Different kinds of chips that can be encoded in different ways. And in there, our great specialty is this encoding for the highest security, the greatest flexibility, compatibility with all access and identification systems.

Camille de Meeûs: [00:02:38] Currently, we are still in an era where, well, ecology is super important, whether it is us on a daily basis or companies, we must pay attention. Are your badges made of plastic? How do you make them?

Quentin Moreau: [00:02:49] Traditionally, the PVC badge is made of PVC. So PVC has a bad reputation and rightly so, but PVC is recyclable. So we already invite our customers, who can, to collect the badges after use, bring them back to us and we offer the recycling service. Our PVC cards that we recycle become industrial pipes in specific areas, etc. But we ourselves offer our customers, even before the possible recycling of a used badge, but we offer our customers to make badges in recycled PVC. And then we also have alternative possibilities, we make wooden cards for events for example, cardboard cards, PET cards which is already a more environmentally friendly plastic. We have all sorts of alternatives that are nice to use.

Camille de Meeûs: [00:03:32] But do you only make badges and are there only printers to print these badges or are there other things in the catalog that you sell or that you set up?

Quentin Moreau: [00:03:40] We have a super corny slogan, which everyone has taken up since, no I think we took it up. It's "Much more than plastic card". The plastic card is the central product, we have plastic card printers which are really our second product, but then we obviously have a fairly coherent catalog that revolves around the plastic card. Obviously, we sell lanyards, neck straps that allow the badge to be worn, and card holders that extend the durability of the card. This is how, for example, a few public transport companies in Belgium order hundreds of thousands of card holders from us which allow them to protect the Mobib card. But we sell all sorts of accessories that go very well, the yoyo of the rollers, etc.

Camille de Meeûs: [00:04:15] Where are you located? And how many employees do you have at Corona Print? How does it work internally, the internal organization?

Quentin Moreau: [00:04:21] We are located in Forêt, not far from the Gare du Midi. We are a small team only, today we are only five, and internally it works like a family business so everyone works in synergy. There is the one who is more specialized in graphics, there is the one who is more specialized in technology precisely, for everything that is encoding, we have a customer manager, we have one who does more of the administrative work, but everyone lends a hand, we are almost all competent in the different fields.

Camille de Meeûs: [00:04:46] Is your dad still with you? You say it's a family business, are there several of you from the family working in the company?

Nicolas Moreau: [00:04:51] Officially, we took over the company in December.

Camille de Meeûs: [00:04:54] Bravo! Congratulations!

Nicolas Moreau: [00:04:56] That's it, and so it's Quentin and I who are the new bosses. And to the question of whether dad is still there, yes, in the sense that he still comes to the workplace very regularly to advise us.

Camille de Meeûs: [00:05:08] To recap, what you do, your main scoop, is really access badges in companies, that's why we talk about technology with a chip in the badges. How is it going with the competition? What would you say to your biggest competitor?

Quentin Moreau: [00:05:20] I'm not used to prospecting with my competitors, but we are very strong in the knowledge of the chip. We have been working on it, encoding it, securing it for years now. What do I want to say to my competitors? That I'm better than them!

Camille de Meeûs: [00:05:35] Are there many competitors on the market?

Quentin Moreau: [00:05:37] Belgium is a very small country, so we have a few competitors in Belgium but it is true that we are in a market where foreign competitors can possibly come and take a look. But we have a lot of partners after that.

Camille de Meeûs: [00:05:48] What would you say to young people who, after their studies, are starting out? What advice would you give them if they were starting out in your sector of activity?

Quentin Moreau: [00:05:54] Ah, I would say come to us because we are looking to hire.

Camille de Meeûs: [00:05:57] You are currently recruiting! (Nicolas Moreau: Absolutely) But what type of profile are you recruiting for the moment?

Quentin Moreau: [00:06:00] We need someone to do the productions, the small production that we have to do on a daily basis for our customers, whether it is printing, whether it is printing with encoding, whether it is personalization. Because often the badges come with the printing of a photo, a first and last name, so you have to be able to manipulate a database, but then it requires rigor. It still requires a bit of a technical side, because you have to know how to handle quite a few different tools, relatively modern machines, programs that evolve a lot. Between what I was doing ten years ago when I started working in the company and today it's impressive, the number of things, tools that have changed, you have to be able to evolve with all that.

Camille de Meeûs: [00:06:36] Now, we are going to talk more about the customer, commercial aspect, how is it going? How do you find customers today? How do you prospect?

Nicolas Moreau: [00:06:43] We have a large number of historical customers who, when we look at their first orders, often date from before 2000, others well before, but who may have changed their name in the meantime. So there is a good base of loyal customers, who have even had the opportunity to go and find other suppliers and who have returned appreciating our ability to adapt to new challenges in terms of security and technology. And in addition, we have customers who necessarily come by word of mouth. And now, very soon, we will broaden our customer horizons thanks to PHCom which will help us in this process...

Camille de Meeûs: [00:07:18] Great! So, that allows me to jump right in. What do you actually expect from PHCom? So, the collaboration will start soon, what do you mainly expect from our profession and what we will bring you?

Quentin Moreau: [00:07:28] The recruitment of new customers, we are too focused on our current customer base. It brings us quite a bit of work because each project is recurring but with new possibilities, so it's true that we have work, but we don't work at all with the customers who are with our competitors or the customers who don't necessarily imagine needing our products. We don't know these people, we are not yet used to contacting them, recruiting them, finding them. And that's what we expect from PHCom, it's from this collaboration to learn how to go and see these customers, learn how to find them.

Camille de Meeûs: [00:07:58] On a commercial level, because you have been in business since '82, can you explain some successes or failures you have encountered in sales, in internal prospecting, are there things you could share with us? It's even interesting for the PHCom teams to know.

Nicolas Moreau: [00:08:13] So far, we can generally only talk about successes, given that the projects that we saw as well-developed and very interesting, as a project, as soon as we took the time to get involved and prepare a good collaboration with the client, in almost 100% of cases, the project worked because we identified the client's need in advance. So as soon as there was a request, we responded with a coherent offer and project, and the project was always a success.

Camille de Meeûs: [00:08:40] How does collaborating with PHCom meet a need? So yes, we understand that you want to meet new people, new customers, broaden your horizons, move a little outside the framework of the loyalty you have with customers for years. Is there anything else you expect?

Quentin Moreau: [00:08:54] We have taken over the company and so we are, it seems, the best ambassadors, we will see on the ground, for our own products, but I expect PHCom to help us, to accompany us on the ground. Approaching a customer who is expecting us is easy. Approaching a customer who wasn't necessarily expecting us is very nice, it's a challenge, but if we are accompanied by professionals it will be fantastic.

Camille de Meeûs: [00:09:16] What was the trigger for you to choose a collaborator, an external partner on a commercial level, how did it happen? How do you know PHCom in fact?

Quentin Moreau: [00:09:23] In fact, PHCom called one day while recruiting new customers and I was there, I almost slammed the door but I thought it was nice, the guy was polite so I said to myself "I'm not going to slam the phone down, I'm going to answer politely". And at the end of the discussion that lasted an hour, he said to me "So you know how we do it with potential prospects? We are kind, we are efficient, we are pleasant". That was the beginning of a collaboration.

Camille de Meeûs: [00:09:44] That's what I was going to say, so you really participated in the prospecting then! You thought Great, but now you know how we are going to be prospectors for you?

Quentin Moreau: [00:09:51] It was crazy, it was very nice, it's based on experience.

Camille de Meeûs: [00:09:53] Too cool. What will be the primary satisfaction of collaborating with PHCom? I presume that in addition you had an hour-long discussion with one of our prospectors.

Quentin Moreau: [00:10:02] I can't wait to be in the field and make my first customer as a result of this collaboration, to see what it's like to show up at someone's place who isn't expecting me and finally convince them. I have a lot of expectations about that, but I imagine there will be a lot of pleasure in having made a first customer like that.

Camille de Meeûs: [00:10:17] So it's a real challenge, is it something you already do? Are you also in "sales" in the company? Do you sometimes also pick up your phone to try to contact new people? How does it work then?

Nicolas Moreau: [00:10:27] Having been in the company for almost 20 years now, I mainly meet clients for technical sales, so the client approach is something very classic for me. And the approach of pushing the limits beyond the apparent limits, finding a solution, even when there isn't one, is something that has fueled me for 20 years in the company. And so here, doing it at a commercial level is a new approach, but one that really fits into this spirit of renewal and discovery.

Camille de Meeûs: [00:10:53] Your clientele, it's all types of companies in fact, mainly what are your clients, who are your clients?

Quentin Moreau: [00:10:58] We work mainly with companies that themselves offer services to end customers. For example, access control companies, or we have companies that offer customer loyalty type services etc. So they come to us to get the loyalty cards, and they offer a complete package to a store, a chain of stores, etc. But there you go, access control companies are our daily customers for producing badges for end customers. Now, it happens that we also have the direct customer, for various reasons, sometimes because the end customer themselves manages their security but needs badges, they come to us! Then after that in the customers, we have the small club that wants 50 cards for its members, we have the large chain of stores, we can have a graphic designer, a designer because he wants badges for a specific project. We really have quite a few different profiles, but it's true that we have some loyal customers that we see almost every day, who themselves are generally resellers.

Camille de Meeûs: [00:11:51] Thank you very much Nicolas and Quentin, we were delighted to receive you today and all the best for our collaboration and especially for you who just took over the company in December. I wish you the greatest possible success.

Quentin Moreau: [00:12:01] Thank you Camille.